tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post6437886900443675731..comments2023-10-19T23:55:34.695-05:00Comments on The Radical Virgo: Chiron and Pluto: The Comet BrothersJoyce Masonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13462878902674014180noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post-47510269456754724522009-08-14T14:38:41.467-05:002009-08-14T14:38:41.467-05:00Lana, everything you've said about Chiron and ...Lana, everything you've said about Chiron and Pluto from your dream rings so true! Since I focus a lot on Chiron in my blog as one of my specialties, maybe you'd like to guest blog sometime, especially if enough memory of the dream comes forward and you're willing to share. Contact me directly anytime to compare notes: <a href="mailto:joyce@joycemason.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail me</a>.<br /><br />Thanks for this lively connection!Joyce Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13462878902674014180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post-36107400260207372372009-08-14T13:35:23.406-05:002009-08-14T13:35:23.406-05:00Dear Joyce
Thanks very much. I will try to go back...Dear Joyce<br />Thanks very much. I will try to go back and revisit the dream via meditation. Rest assured, you will be the first person I contact when the material surfaces! Meanwhile the only time I have touched on it is in my blog of 19 October 2008:<br />“Chiron has a similar energy to Pluto up to a point. While Pluto is into depth-psychology and letting go of outworn forms, Chiron is about depth-psychology too but with a healing twist. So when you are undergoing a Chiron transit it can feel very much like a Plutonian event and equally transformative at a cellular level, but you reach a point when you can suddenly see the purpose of the event much more easily and turn a crisis into a miracle. The timing of Chiron is also different from that of Pluto. A Pluto problem can take a long time to steal into your life and to resolve. Chiron events are often shorter in duration, often come to notice in a sudden crisis, and be instant in resolution.”<br />I will be back!<br /> LanaLanahttp://www.lanawooster.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post-32866271422668640912009-08-12T09:53:43.612-05:002009-08-12T09:53:43.612-05:00Lana, thank you for commenting! I'm fascinated...Lana, thank you for commenting! I'm fascinated by your all-night dream about Chiron and Pluto. Did you by any chance write it up and are you willing to share parts of it? If yes, I would love to read your insights. I agree that there are important and subtle differences between the energies of Chiron and Pluto that are worth our attention and analysis. If I get anything out of the classification controversy about either of them, it's that they are small but mighty, complex and difficult to "put in a box." <br /><br />Despite the Nigel Henbest quote that starts my article and his belief that Pluto is a comet, I never felt Pluto should be demoted from planetary status. What I do think is fascinating is that some people have *perceived* Pluto as a comet and that Chiron is technically half-comet. This has to do with what I call "omenclature." Comets have been perceived thoughout history as omens, either positive or negative. The Star of Bethlehem was often depicted as a comet, even though we know now it was the conjunction of several planets. There were Chiron and Pluto, together, at the Big Turn of this Millennium. Something in our collective consciousness sees comets when something important is going on. I am still pondering the rich metaphors in this projection, especially since many people have predicated a "Second Coming" of inner enlightenment. <br /><br />I'm very impressed with your web site and have added it to The Radical Virgo blog roll. Please keep in touch!Joyce Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13462878902674014180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post-89580095751935611652009-08-12T06:07:45.321-05:002009-08-12T06:07:45.321-05:00Thank you for this post. I have always felt the s...Thank you for this post. I have always felt the same way about Chiron, Pluto, and their link. In the late 1980s I had an all-night dream about their similarity and how to define the subtle differences. Your article makes me want to revisit that. I also agree with Laurel about Pluto. There is a lot more to ponder on the subject.<br /> LanaLanahttp://www.lanawooster.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post-53666137370433438532009-07-28T16:47:28.677-05:002009-07-28T16:47:28.677-05:00Laurel, thanks for sharing your views and wealth o...Laurel, thanks for sharing your views and wealth of information on Pluto and Chiron. I had no idea that the decision to demote Pluto was made by such a small percentage of the IAU. Planetary classification appears to be, at best, a work in progress.Joyce Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13462878902674014180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post-69120428240418260002009-07-28T16:21:35.065-05:002009-07-28T16:21:35.065-05:00I have nothing against Chiron, but strongly disagr...I have nothing against Chiron, but strongly disagree with classifying Pluto as anything other than a planet. The so-called "official" demotion of Pluto was done by only four percent of the IAU, most of whom are not planetary scientists, and was opposed by hundreds of professional astronomers in a formal petition.<br /><br />Pluto is estimated to be 70 percent rock, and more significantly, it is in a state of hydrostatic equilibrium, meaning its own gravity pulls it into a round shape--a characteristic of planets and not of shapeless asteroids. Pluto does not orbit into the inner solar system the way a comet does, and as you noted, it is much larger than the biggest known comet.<br /><br />Elliptical orbits do not disqualify objects from being considered planets. We have discovered exoplanet systems in which several planets orbit the same star, all on different orbital planets. These objects are larger than Jupiter, so saying they are not planets is ridiculous.<br /><br />The IAU definition makes no sense in two areas. First, it says dwarf planets are not planets at all, which makes no linguistic sense and departs from the usage of the term "dwarf" in astronomy, where dwarf stars are still stars, and dwarf galaxies are still galaxies.<br /><br />Second, the IAU definition classifies objects solely by where they are while ignoring what they are. If Earth were in Pluto's orbit, according to the IAU definition, it would not be considered a planet either. A definition that takes the same object and makes it a planet in one location and not a planet in another is simply unusable.<br /><br />I do agree, however, that sending a mission to Chiron is a good idea in spite of the fact that I view Chiron as being in a different class of objects than Pluto.Laurel Kornfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02387883186244337619noreply@blogger.com