tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post6669561471718646600..comments2023-10-19T23:55:34.695-05:00Comments on The Radical Virgo: Planetary Fishing: VenusJoyce Masonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13462878902674014180noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post-27383280829825685582013-05-12T19:26:35.065-05:002013-05-12T19:26:35.065-05:00Sure glad that prediction was wrong about your dyi...Sure glad that prediction was wrong about your dying at 32, Mads. You're definitely alive, well, kicking and commenting. Blessed to know you and have you participate often on The Radical Virgo!Joyce Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13462878902674014180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post-76181950684485836122013-05-12T03:52:12.292-05:002013-05-12T03:52:12.292-05:00Yes, I try to honour the KISS-principle, but somet...Yes, I try to honour the KISS-principle, but sometimes it is necessary to go through a lot of layers of complexity to find a way to keep it simple stupid... <br /><br />And I (and my Venus) do find the whole theme of the power of predictions interesting and scary. I prefer to predict the past. I was predicted dead at 32 and I almost did die. But death is of course also transformation, and I certainly feel very much alive and kicking. Correct me if I'm mistaken :)Mads Elung-Jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03585898718359870335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post-56309014352770230502013-05-11T15:57:38.003-05:002013-05-11T15:57:38.003-05:00You make a great point about the asteroid Pallas A...You make a great point about the asteroid Pallas Athene, Mads. When many of the interpretations of aspects and other astrological basics originally were written, we were only dealing with the visible planets through Saturn ... and a much less complicated world (and fewer possibilities of how things played out because people had fewer choices and tools for life.) Just like all of us, astrology is evolving to consider many other bodies and potential interactions within our horoscopes. It's almost impossible to have something that's unaspected now; there are so many newer possibilities. We're discovery what that all means in practical terms by sharing, just like you're doing here in the Comments. Thank you for that! <br /><br />I think it's important that the language we use leaves room for people to encompass not only their personal experiences with a planet--or not in case of unaspected planets--but also their level of evolution. We are complex beings now with millions of choices and experiences for handling any astrological phenomenon. Many people see astrologers as authorities, and to see only the negative possibilities in any astrological signature is not fair to "the consumer." At worst, it can contribute to self-fulfilling prophecies. The worst case I know of was an astrologer who predicted the exact time of a client's death--and he died at that very moment. Was she such a great seer or did she scare him to death with her prediction?<br /><br />Lots of layers to your questions and comments. It's great to continue learning with you.Joyce Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13462878902674014180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post-16787157673772353312013-05-11T12:18:11.212-05:002013-05-11T12:18:11.212-05:00Thanks for a bit of clarification. There's a l...Thanks for a bit of clarification. There's a lot of scary doomsday writing around. <br /><br />The last article i read about unaspected planets was this one http://chirotic.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/planets-unaspected-feral-peregrine/ <br /><br />Jeremy in that article only takes into account aspects to planets and not to angles. The article you link to has the same opinion, but I guess everyone does it his way.<br /><br />I do know that my Venus is not alone, if you count the asteroid Pallas Athena, she's part of a grand trine with my North Node. So they do fish beautifully together. <br /><br />But since all my other personal planets are in aspect together I do think she stands a bit apart. But she's chosen it herself, I'm sure...Mads Elung-Jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03585898718359870335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post-26944160946194541972013-05-11T11:01:26.609-05:002013-05-11T11:01:26.609-05:00Mads, glad you're enjoying the planetary fishi...Mads, glad you're enjoying the planetary fishing trip! I'm delighted it has hit a chord with so many readers. <br /><br />Since we've published your chart in an article you contributed to The Radical Virgo, <a href="http://www.radicalvirgo.com/2012/05/chiron-in-pisces-healing-story.html" rel="nofollow">Chiron in Pisces: A Healing Story</a> (a very popular one I might add), I took a look at it to refresh my memory. I'm not sure I'd consider your Venus to be unaspected, even though there's technically no link-up with other planets. Your Venus conjuncts the ASC, so it of course also squares the MC (5-6 degrees). It also aspects the nodal axis (trines North Node, sextiles South Node within 2 degrees). While these are not planets per se, they are connections to very sensitive points in the chart.<br /><br />Generally, my take on unaspected planets is that they become either overemphasized in their quest to find linkage in the chart--or their influence is hidden and can drive their owner from the unconscious, sometimes in unproductive ways, as he or she seeks that linkage without realizing it. Your Venus seems very front and center to me! A quick Google search yielded a ton of reading on this topic, <a href="http://www.astrotheme.com/files/unaspected_planets.php" rel="nofollow">starting with this one</a>, if you want to learn more. The term peregrine is a classic one and is <a href="http://astrologystudy.blogspot.com/2011/10/interpreting-unaspected-planets.html" rel="nofollow">described here by Noel Tyl</a>. I prefer the term "unaspected planet" because it says what it means, and I'm all for communications clarity. When I hear peregrine, I keep thinking of the peregrine falcon, then I think of the Maltese Falcon, the movie with Humphrey Bogart--then I'm onto The Birds by Hitchcock. Pretty soon an innocent term has become a horror movie! I wouldn't want that in my horoscope, or a feral (wild) animal. Knowing you appreciate my sense of humor, just sayin'! :)Joyce Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13462878902674014180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881668285026141614.post-69141300599308229282013-05-11T04:36:46.434-05:002013-05-11T04:36:46.434-05:00Hello Joyce,
I have enjoyed the fishing expeditio...Hello Joyce,<br /><br />I have enjoyed the fishing expedition this month quite a lot.<br /><br />Venus is very special to me, I have a Libra ascendant, and Venus is in 1st house Libra widely conjunct my ascendant, and totally unaspected from all other planets. <br /><br />So when she fishes she is extremely visible and totally on her own. Peace, justice and fairness are my things, I'm not immune to physical beauty, thank God, and I am also aware that I have been given my share in abundance, but funnily enough it never meant much to me, more like a practical accessory.<br /><br />I can never totally find out whether you call it peregrine, feral or simply unaspected. But I'd love to hear any comment of yours so generally on unaspected planets.<br /><br />Hope all's well in California, in Berlin we finally have spring, it is beautiful!Mads Elung-Jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03585898718359870335noreply@blogger.com